רעדן:ארץ ישראל
Palestine is not Israel
[רעדאַקטירן קוואַלטעקסט]Today Palestine is the name of the West Bank and Gaza strip, Those are not an official part of the State of Israel, indeed its true that they are a part of the Land of Israel, but this article is about the State of Israel, don’t confuse between the two.
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If some one want to write a article about the Land of Israel or Palestine he can do it as he wish, but don’t corrupt this article, please.
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The State of Israel is a fact
[רעדאַקטירן קוואַלטעקסט]I wont even try to explain my self, if U are an Orthodox religious in your views and it seems to be the case, just add a sub title that explain that Orthodox Jews don’t recognize the state of Israel. If you want we can make a vote to end this dispute in a democratic way. Tzvi 23:15, 30 יולי 2005 (UTC)
Tzvi A, one of the prime conventions for the independence of a nation is international recognition. Taiwan is recognised by over 50 nations, Western Sahara is recognised by over 70, but neither of them are considered "official" by the United Nations. So this is invalidated. What, then, makes a nation? IS it self-government? This can't be, because surely Transdniester, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Tamil Eelam, Somaliland, South Somalia, and Puntland are not independent nations, even though they are self-governing and "de-facto independent". So this says there really are no credible criteria for determining whether or not a nation is independent, or a nation.
Regardless of wehther or not they are "officially" part of Israel, the "Palestinian Territories" are not an independent nation, and they are governed and occupied by Israel, including Israeli settlements. So, it is my opinion that a Palestinian flag is acceptable on this page, ALONGSIDE an Israeli flag, not instead of it. --Node ue 07:36, 31 יולי 2005 (UTC)
Again, Israel is Israel and Palestine is Palestine.
Why should they be mixed in the same page?
The symbols on this page should be only the official symbols of
the State of Israel, Because the article is about the State of Israel.
OR If you do want to put the Palestinian flag I suggest that this page will be renamed "the land of Israel/Palestine" to make it clear that what’s written here is about the land and not the state!So, The information Table will contain both Israel and the Palestinian authority. The new renamed article will have them both, but this article will be rename to “State of Israel” and only with the official Israeli symbols.
ALL AGREE?
- If the PAlestinian Territories are not part of the state of israel, to which nation do they belong? According to the United Nations and most countries today, there is no independent nation called "Palestine", rather it is an unincorporated part of Israel. --Node ue 08:12, 1 אויגוסט 2005 (UTC)
Israel only control parts the West bank or Gaza and the majority of Arab citizen are under the PLO control, under the A&B zones that were moved in to the PLO control in Oslo Accords. Its true thou that in some military operations taken by the IDF some of this A&B zones are temporally under the control of Israel as a Military zone. Tzvi 08:48, 1 אויגוסט 2005 (UTC)
Palestine is a part of Eretz Israel, not Israel
[רעדאַקטירן קוואַלטעקסט]No one disputed the existence of Israel, but others did, apparently, deny the Palestinian State. The idea to create separate links for מדינת ישראל and ארץ ישראל is, therefore, fair, and will satisfy both aspects.
A Palestinian state never existed. That's a FACT.
Again, I ask
[רעדאַקטירן קוואַלטעקסט]Tsvi A, what nation does Palestine belong to? According to the United Nations, the PLO is not a country, and it belongs to Israel. If you disagree, you may argue with the UN, not with me. --Node ue
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Peace in the territory
Peace in the world.
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